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	<title>Comments on: Google wave observations.</title>
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		<title>By: calyps</title>
		<link>http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>calyps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A huge collection of Google wave extensions are also available at http://www.wextensions.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A huge collection of Google wave extensions are also available at <a href="http://www.wextensions.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wextensions.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexandru Bolboaca-Diaconu (alexboly) 's status on Friday, 13-Nov-09 10:35:21 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
		<link>http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandru Bolboaca-Diaconu (alexboly) 's status on Friday, 13-Nov-09 10:35:21 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I can only agree with google wave observations http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I can only agree with google wave observations <a href="http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/" rel="nofollow">http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: maxolasersquad</title>
		<link>http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>maxolasersquad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using it a little.  A lot of us in the Florida Ubuntu Loco have been using it in conjunction with IRC.
My biggest grip is that it is not easy to tell which part of the conversation has been updated.  The website will indicate three unread posts, but I don&#039;t know where in the conversation those unread posts are.
I am mostly looking forward to it being in other multi-IM applications like Pidgin and Empathy, as I like having my desktop notify me when something new comes in versus me checking a website.
It is important to remember it is in beta and has absolutely no third party support for it yet, so it is not really possible to make any real judgments about how good the final product will be yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using it a little.  A lot of us in the Florida Ubuntu Loco have been using it in conjunction with IRC.<br />
My biggest grip is that it is not easy to tell which part of the conversation has been updated.  The website will indicate three unread posts, but I don&#8217;t know where in the conversation those unread posts are.<br />
I am mostly looking forward to it being in other multi-IM applications like Pidgin and Empathy, as I like having my desktop notify me when something new comes in versus me checking a website.<br />
It is important to remember it is in beta and has absolutely no third party support for it yet, so it is not really possible to make any real judgments about how good the final product will be yet.</p>
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		<title>By: pjd</title>
		<link>http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>pjd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went straight to stage 4 with Twitter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went straight to stage 4 with Twitter</p>
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		<title>By: nikanth</title>
		<link>http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>nikanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wave = Bugzilla - (mid-air collision) + Fancy UI + Rich text support

I would like to see Bugzilla get these features or Wave should be used as Bugzilla. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wave = Bugzilla &#8211; (mid-air collision) + Fancy UI + Rich text support</p>
<p>I would like to see Bugzilla get these features or Wave should be used as Bugzilla. <img src='http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jcollie</title>
		<link>http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>jcollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The usefulness of Google Wave remains to be seen.  The situation reminds me a bit of the well-worn quip &quot;what use is a newborn baby?&quot;  In it&#039;s current incarnation, Google Wave is little more than a toy, so unless you feel like playing around with it there&#039;s not much sense in trying to track down an invitation.

Google seems to be doing some of the right things though.  The protocol is based on XMPP and they have published the protocol specs.  The protocol allows for federation so once the code is written anyone should be able to run their own Wave server.  Google is providing some open source reference code to kickstart alternate implementations although from what I understand it&#039;s not a complete solution.

If Google Wave remains Google-only I think you may be right in that Google Wave will be a historical curiosity.  But if truly independent implementations emerge that can interoperate with each other I think Google Wave will have a significant influence on how we communicate on the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The usefulness of Google Wave remains to be seen.  The situation reminds me a bit of the well-worn quip &#8220;what use is a newborn baby?&#8221;  In it&#8217;s current incarnation, Google Wave is little more than a toy, so unless you feel like playing around with it there&#8217;s not much sense in trying to track down an invitation.</p>
<p>Google seems to be doing some of the right things though.  The protocol is based on XMPP and they have published the protocol specs.  The protocol allows for federation so once the code is written anyone should be able to run their own Wave server.  Google is providing some open source reference code to kickstart alternate implementations although from what I understand it&#8217;s not a complete solution.</p>
<p>If Google Wave remains Google-only I think you may be right in that Google Wave will be a historical curiosity.  But if truly independent implementations emerge that can interoperate with each other I think Google Wave will have a significant influence on how we communicate on the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: macemoneta</title>
		<link>http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>macemoneta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is with the roll out.  Google Wave is a collaborative communications tool.  Using invites means that there is never a critical mass of people you know.  Trying to convince people to use it so you can figure out if it&#039;s useful is a wasted effort.  Waiting for people you know to join on their own is a waste of time.  This isn&#039;t GMail; it can&#039;t interact with people on another platform.

They should have simply opened up to everyone at once.  As it is, people are branding it a failure without really giving it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is with the roll out.  Google Wave is a collaborative communications tool.  Using invites means that there is never a critical mass of people you know.  Trying to convince people to use it so you can figure out if it&#8217;s useful is a wasted effort.  Waiting for people you know to join on their own is a waste of time.  This isn&#8217;t GMail; it can&#8217;t interact with people on another platform.</p>
<p>They should have simply opened up to everyone at once.  As it is, people are branding it a failure without really giving it a try.</p>
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