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		<title>Not attending FUDCon Toronto.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of my colleagues and lots of Fedora community folks will be heading to the frozen wastelandlovely city of Toronto next weekend for Fudcon. To reiterate what I&#8217;ve said in email to a number of people: I won&#8217;t be joining them. This year has been hellish for sorting out immigration details. In April, I needed [...]<p><a href="http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/30/attending-fudcon-toronto/">Not attending FUDCon Toronto.</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.codemonkey.org.uk">codemonkey.org.uk</a></p>



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of my colleagues and lots of Fedora community folks will be heading to the <strike>frozen wasteland</strike>lovely city of Toronto next weekend for <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009">Fudcon</a>.<br />
To reiterate what I&#8217;ve said in email to a number of people: I won&#8217;t be joining them.</p>
<p>This year has been hellish for sorting out immigration details.  In April, I needed a VISA renewal. Then there was a passport renewal. Because my passport was expiring, my VISA only ran until the length of the passport.  So now I need another new one for my new passport.  As part of the renewal process, I&#8217;m not allowed to leave the US. (Well, I could, but I might not be allowed back in).</p>
<p>In other news: I&#8217;m warming to the idea that the internet be switched off whenever there are public holidays.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/30/attending-fudcon-toronto/">Not attending FUDCon Toronto.</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.codemonkey.org.uk">codemonkey.org.uk</a></p>


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		<title>Passport hassles.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My current 10 year british passport was due to expire next February. Given that I&#8217;ll be needing to do another US Visa renewal at some point in the next 6 months, I figured I&#8217;d get a new one a little early. (They add on the remaining time to the new passport). If I was still [...]<p><a href="http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/08/26/passport-hassles/">Passport hassles.</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.codemonkey.org.uk">codemonkey.org.uk</a></p>



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My current 10 year british passport was due to expire next February.  Given that I&#8217;ll be needing to do another US Visa renewal at some point in the next 6 months, I figured I&#8217;d get a new one a little early.  (They add on the remaining time to the new passport).<br />
If I was still living in the UK, the whole process would have been fairly trivial.  For people living outside the UK however, the experience was frustrating to say the least.</p>
<p>My options were..</p>
<ol>
<li>Fly back to the UK, apply for new passport, wait weeks for them to get around to it. (Suboptimal due to the &#8216;being away from home for a long time&#8217; thing).</p>
<li>Mail my passport to some facility in Washington, DC along with an extortionate fee, where it would be kept for &#8216;a few weeks&#8217;, and then returned to me along with a new passport.  (This option just gave me the creeps for unexplained reasons).
<li>Fly back to the UK, and do a &#8216;same day&#8217; visit to the passport office in London, and pay extortionate fees. (This is the option I ended up taking).
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<p>So the same day passport thing.. First you need to make an appointment. If you&#8217;re living outside the UK, this is the first hurdle you fall at.  Someone in their wisdom decided to make this a free number that can&#8217;t be called from overseas.  Thanks to an intermediary, several round-trips, I got an appointment made.  Well, sort of.  You can&#8217;t make an appointment more than 2 weeks ahead of time, and I had a specific set of dates in mind, to coincide with a trip back to the UK for other reasons.  So my intermediary called back 2 weeks ahead of time, and was told to pass on a list of things I would need to bring.</p>
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<li>A reference number.</p>
<li>An invitation letter
<li>2 bills as proof of my address in the US
<li>A letter from my intermediary saying that I was staying with him while I was in the UK
<li>2 of his bills to prove he lives at that address.
<li>A filled out web form available at http blahblahblah
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<p>All straight forward enough I guess.  I hit up the web form.   &#8220;If you are traveling in the next 4 weeks, don&#8217;t use this form, go see the British consulate&#8221;.  Sigh.</p>
<p>So I made my way to the British consulate in Boston.  Only to find they&#8217;d already closed for the day. At 12.30.  Turns out they&#8217;re only open for 3 hours each day.   So after the weekend, I went back again, earlier this time.  I enter the building, and the place is deserted.  There&#8217;s no receptionist. Or any means to indicate &#8220;HEY THERE&#8217;S SOMEONE HERE WHO WANTS TO SEE SOMEONE&#8221;.  So you pace around waiting, hoping that someone will eventually come out of one of the locked doors.  20 minutes pass, and someone finally appears.  I explain my predicament, and I get a blank look that just tells me how the rest of the conversation is going to go.<br />
&#8220;We don&#8217;t do anything with passports. We can&#8217;t help you&#8221; was the short version. I left there with the helpful advice of &#8220;just turn up at the interview and explain&#8221;.  Having experienced dealing with such institutions when I lived in the UK, I wasn&#8217;t particularly hopeful with this strategy.</p>
<p>So I arrived in London a day early, and hit up a post office, on the off-chance I could get a form from them, and it would be the right form for my situation.   (Short answer: It was).   The next day I make my way to the passport office.  I arrive a good 30 minutes early just in case. Only to find that they won&#8217;t even let you into the building more than 10 minutes before your appointment.  So I waited outside. (Tip for anyone who stumbles across this who might also want to get a new passport: Get an afternoon appointment, there&#8217;s a pub across the road, which will at least make the waiting more bearable. There&#8217;s not a great deal else to do nearby).</p>
<p>Once I&#8217;d been let in, I went through an xray scanner, and then saw someone at a desk to get issued a number to wait for.  The conversation went something like this ..</p>
<p>&#8220;Appointment letter&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I didn&#8217;t get sent one. But it&#8217;s ok, I have the reference number&#8221;<br />
&#8220;But you need a letter&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yes, but you didn&#8217;t send me one&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Without a letter, you can&#8217;t see anyone&#8221;<br />
&#8220;But the letter won&#8217;t tell you anything other than my reference number&#8221;<br />
(variations on the above until finally he reluctantly agreed to take my reference number)<br />
&#8220;ok, my number is 4, 8, 7, ..&#8221;<br />
&#8220;whoa, whoa, it&#8217;s supposed to be 4, 8, 9, ..&#8221;<br />
&#8220;well it isn&#8217;t, and this is the number I was told&#8221;<br />
&#8220;But it&#8217;s supposed to have a 9 in it&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Well, mine doesn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s 4, 8, 7, &#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;it&#8217;s not going to work without a 9 in it, it&#8217;s the wrong number&#8221;<br />
&#8220;well try it anyway&#8221;<br />
&#8220;It won&#8217;t work&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Please, try it.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;*sigh*&#8221;<br />
&#8220;4, 8, 7, &#8230;&#8221;<br />
(My name appears on the screen as if by magic)</p>
<p>Once I had my magic ticket, I waited upstairs for a few minutes before being called, where I was interviewed by someone who never asked for any of the bills or other paperwork that was requested.  Instead, she was more concerned with knowing &#8220;what do I have to do to live in america?&#8221;.  She then spent a while staring at my photographs for my new passport, looking at me, squinting at the photographs, looking at me, and coming up with lines like &#8220;I don&#8217;t think the background is white enough&#8221;  &#8220;your eyes don&#8217;t look right&#8221; &#8220;how long ago were these photographs taken?&#8221;  &#8220;I think the computer is going to reject them&#8221;.  She seemed to be pushing to try and get me to use their photo booth to go take more photographs, without even having tried the ones I submitted.  &#8220;try them anyway. if they don&#8217;t work, THEN I&#8217;ll get new photographs&#8221; &#8220;*sigh*&#8221;.</p>
<p>I made a point about them not slicing through the visa pages on my old passport.  They showed complete indifference, which made me worried.  At no point was I asked for the bills, or proof of address documentation.</p>
<p>I paid my extortionate fee, and was told to come back in four hours.  After getting some lunch, and wandering around for a few hours, I returned, and my old passport still had its visa intact and I had a new passport waiting for collection, complete with biometric bullshit.<br />
They had a machine that you can use to scan the rfid chip with. It has this blurb about how it doesn&#8217;t contain anything other than what the computer shows you.  Just how trusting do they expect people to be? (Or maybe I&#8217;m overly cynical).</p>
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